What Is a Living Home? How to Create a Non-Toxic, Healthier House

Maggie (00:02.053)
Are you living as healthy as you think you are? Welcome to Women Folk Revival, where we are deeply rooted and wildly intentional. I'm Maggie.

Meara (00:09.614)
you

Meara (00:13.376)
and I'm Mira. And you know, it's funny, we spend so much time worrying about the health of the soil in our gardens, but we forget almost completely that our bodies have their own ecosystem too. We've spent years being told to sanitize and scrub everything in the house and

The healthy home is not just about what you keep out, but it's about what we're inviting in. So we need to stop suffocating our bodies with synthetics and start feeding them with what they actually need. So let's get into it. Yeah, we.

Maggie (00:46.279)
I'm just gonna do it.

Meara (00:51.604)
I am multiracial and my hair is 4AB hair type, so it's curly, coarse and thick. And then of course I have seven children and some of my children have 2A, very fine hair with absolute no texture. It's like paper thin and it gets really curly when it's wet. And then I have some of my kids have hair like me and then I have another child who has that extremely luscious

Maggie (01:20.807)
Gorgeous

Meara (01:21.064)
South Asian, Indian, Pakistani hair that is like really weighted down with the curls. It's a 3C, it's corkscrew. No, that's AXA. Khadija has 2A. It's very thick, coarse, very strong. It's prone to getting oily, but hers never gets oily. So I don't always go based on what they say is going to happen, obviously, because...

you are what you eat as well and your body puts out what it doesn't need. So her hair never gets oily. So basically what I'm getting at is, I used to use hair gel on my hair for years putting all these chemicals on my hair and not until recently did I just learn that flaxseed can be used in your hair. So I boil the heck out of flaxseed and then I add vitamin E and some.

aloe to it and I'm actually able to put it in all my kids hair. It's not greasy. It looks kind of like snot when you pick it up. It's still like kind of clumped together. So you have to like kind of work with it to get it in your hands and rub it together and it can be kind of messy. It lasts about three to five days out and then it can last three to five weeks in the fridge. We leave it out because we just go through it. So I'll put it in their scalp and massage it and then brush their hair and make sure and it dries and it doesn't form like a really nasty

Maggie (02:17.83)
You

Meara (02:39.552)
flaky type deal that like gel does or whatever but but we love it and it's very healthy for our skin and our you know in our hair so

Maggie (02:49.434)
So now what exactly is it doing for your hair? And you said you can use it on all of them, even the ones with very straight and fine hair, which is what I have. So if I put it in my hair, what's it gonna do to my hair?

Meara (02:58.648)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Well, if you put it in your hair and then you brush your hair and like, then it dries. like now on Naila, she has the very thin paper hair. It almost kind of looks like it's, you know, when you spray, what's that stuff that you use? People used to use hairspray back in the day, you know, and it almost kind of gets like that hardness. It does that in her hair. So then we just take a brush and we brush it and it looks very soft and my gosh, I just.

I just stay petting her head. It just feels so soft like a pillow. I love her hair. It's so perfect. And then for Khadijah, it just basically takes the frizz out of everyone's hair. Yeah, and then Aksai, I forgot about her. She has 3C hair, so it's in between the thin and the very coarse hair.

Maggie (03:52.102)
I've never heard of these numbers and letters for hair types before.

Meara (03:56.694)
Neither have I, and I don't know a lot about them. I just know the consistency of the hair for each one, only because most recently have I come into learning more about my kids' hair because I don't do their hair and they look rough. And my daughter, my...

Maggie (04:14.47)
But see, I love your kids' hair because it's just wild and free and even ruby. The one day I came over and it was almost kind of like throwed out. I just loved it.

Meara (04:18.734)
No.

Meara (04:25.984)
She has 4B hair, so it's almost like mine. It gets real puffy. She loves that 1970s, I'm just gonna pick it out and go with the fro look. It's like not even even. And she can pull it off. Like she is, she looks so good. Yeah, but like all these, and I've never known what to do with my hair all the way up until just last year that I started using this flax. So, you know, it doesn't have that crunch. It stays soft and nice. so that's what we're doing. But for those who are listening,

Maggie (04:33.606)
Yeah.

Maggie (04:37.702)
She can, she's beautiful, she does.

Meara (04:55.778)
They, they, a lot of people will probably understand better what these textures and what these hair types are. I still don't know like the full gist of it, but I did do some research before we got on here just so I can mention the, hair types. So people would understand what my kid's hair is. My kids have hair from type A all the way to type X, you know, I mean, so it's just, but, but I need to start doing my kid's hair because we are looking like a bunch of wild flowers around here. So yeah.

Maggie (05:22.65)
love it. Just go with it, Nira.

Meara (05:25.588)
We are just going with it. So yeah, so that's what we're doing for our hair. We also use... No, go ahead. You don't do what? Do you put stuff in your hair?

Maggie (05:33.35)
We don't, oh go ahead, keep going. Oh, go. We don't do anything. I have some natural hair sprays that I use that don't work very well. I've tried the sea salt sprays and those don't work very well. I've recently been putting Ariru powder in there as a dry shampoo, which is great, but it does, I will end up getting like,

Meara (05:58.243)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (06:02.917)
flakes the next day from it. So I have the complete opposite problem where my hair is just so straight and so fine. I want texture. I want tons of texture and I just can't get it unless I use that nasty store-bought hairspray and all that other gunk. So if anyone out there, go to our Facebook page if you know of anything that will give you, that will give a girl texture without all the chemicals. I need help.

Meara (06:05.048)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (06:19.01)
Yeah, just not worth it.

Meara (06:23.96)
yeah.

Meara (06:30.848)
Yeah, we're just learning beside everybody else. That's the one thing, you know, the major thing that we're doing here is while we're growing, we want to grow even more. Like we said in the very beginning, we love research. So it's not about us teaching or telling what to do. We're just sharing what we do and what works for us and what doesn't. And we would love to know things that work for you that that would most definitely probably work for us. Another big thing in our house is toothpaste. We brush once a day unless

Maggie (06:53.507)
Yeah.

Maggie (06:57.701)
Hmm.

Meara (07:00.63)
My kids feel like their mouths are nasty. brush in the evening, in the morning we'll do like a rinse or whatever, but we moved away from the commercial toothpaste and we used nano hydroxy, my gosh, here we go, hydroxyapatite toothpaste with xylitol. And we used Boca. We also used that one brand, what's that brand that you use, Maggie, with the little bus on the front of it? It's a powder.

Maggie (07:27.397)
Van man, van man. Yeah.

Meara (07:29.13)
Yes, I love Van Man with eggshells and help me. man, I can't think eggshells and what's the black charcoal. We use that as well.

Maggie (07:36.646)
Egg shells there's bentonite clay and some of them charcoal Salt I think salt sometimes depending on what you I'm looking right now because I just got a new one and I'm loving it I'm really loving it and I can't remember what it is. So I'm gonna look that up real quick. Keep talking

Meara (07:49.932)
Yes.

Meara (07:53.774)
Are you really?

Meara (07:58.488)
So for those of you wondering, xylitol has been back and forth about does it work, does it not work, is it good for you, is it not good for you. Xylitol actually is not bad. It goes and when you brush it on your teeth, acts like sugar, we call them sugar bunnies, for the sugar bunnies. So when they come and they eat the xylitol particles, they get so full that they don't actually get to your teeth to eat the enamel away.

had more research on this and I don't know where it went, but look it up, xylitol's not bad. Nano, nano particle. Hydroxyapatite. That act, that's, mm-hmm.

Maggie (08:39.151)
Hydroxyapatite, yeah, that's for, that's this new tooth powder that we just got, Living Well with Dr. Michelle. It's remineralizing tooth powder. We can't speak today, Mira.

Meara (08:48.408)
Mm-hmm. We mineralized. Mm-hmm. We cannot.

Maggie (08:55.503)
But I am loving it. I had since been using stuff that my husband made. Our own charcoal mixed with coconut oil and peppermint essential oil. And it's been great. It's just a pain to clean out of my sink. I have to clean my sink every single time I brush my teeth. Which is a pain. I can do it, but it's a pain. But this stuff, I love it.

Meara (09:05.186)
I remember you telling me that.

Meara (09:09.39)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (09:17.475)
Yeah.

Maggie (09:22.925)
It's been wonderful. And then we do baking soda about once a week. Yeah.

Meara (09:26.722)
My husband does that too. Yeah. Also we go to the dentist and I make sure that they don't use. Okay. Well, we, we do just because I don't know. I'm we're all at different stages and that's fine. But, we take our own, dental floss and have them use that. And, because the, like, you know, the dental floss they use with the mint and stuff, that's like really bad for your teeth. And we also make sure that they use the powder.

Maggie (09:31.747)
We do not.

Maggie (09:40.207)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (09:56.076)
form of the toothpaste instead of the ones that has the fluoride in it. I absolutely do not put fluoride on my kids' teeth. They actually made note of it in the dentist office. So before you start going to the dentist, make sure you speak to them. You can talk to them, call them. Do you guys use this? Advocate for yourself. I'm huge on advocating. We also don't do cavities.

Maggie (10:02.362)
Mm.

Maggie (10:11.983)
Yeah, there is no safe amount of fluoride.

Meara (10:16.888)
There's none, absolutely none. We also don't do x-rays unless something's going on with our teeth. So my dentist as well, the adult dentist, they use the powder and they've showed me the ingredients and they are absolutely amazing. So yeah, that's what's going on for teeth. Let's get into bathing. We don't bathe, we don't take baths. We're dirty people. We smell so terrible, my gosh.

Maggie (10:38.413)
Yeah. Neither.

Maggie (10:46.9)
I I can say that you guys do not smell Yeah, thanks You know it's and I you know me and my husband we we get I guess you know Bo from time to time, know working out in the yard and you know after So many days of not bathing and if we're dirty we bathe if our kids are dirty we bathe But if we're not we're not gonna worry about it if they go to bed with you know

Meara (10:51.278)
Thank you, neither do you. Not like I've sniffed you or anything, but.

Meara (11:10.734)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (11:15.001)
brown feet because they've been running through the mud all day, that's okay with me. So, you know, we're not like filthy disgusting people. I used to shower every single day, sometimes more than once, especially because my hair is so fine and gets so oily and just gross. And I had terrible allergies and I got sick a lot and...

Meara (11:18.649)
yeah, we get careless.

Meara (11:26.605)
Nasty people.

Maggie (11:41.701)
I stopped bathing and all of a sudden I took allergy medicine all year round for years of my life. I don't have to take it ever, ever. And I have ragweed growing out the wahoots in my yard and that's what causes hay fever. And I've got cats, which I've always been allergic to. And sometimes I get a little messed up from the cats, but it's nothing, you know, I go in, I wash my face and...

Meara (11:50.317)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (11:59.747)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (12:05.902)
Sure.

Maggie (12:11.16)
And I'm fine. And it's all from not bathing. Yes.

Meara (12:12.408)
That's because we're washing all the good bacteria. Because there's good bacteria. Now, I'm not gonna say we don't bathe ever. You don't need to go call on child services on me. We bathe. And if it's visible, they need a bath, of course. We give them baths. But like.

Maggie (12:21.767)
Right, we made this.

Maggie (12:27.244)
Yeah, but sometimes as you know once a week or in the winter time we might even go longer.

Meara (12:33.506)
Yeah, and the summer, like I said in one of our last episodes, we just hose them down outside before we come in the house. But yeah, we have so much good bacteria that lives on our skin that you don't want to wash them all the time. And the one thing I did love about working in the nursing home was my clients, they sometimes only had one or two baths a week and they were used to bathing every night and they would hate the fact that they only got one bath, whatchamacallit. So I would just say to them, hey, let's wash.

We don't have to, can't take a shower tonight. We don't have time to do a shower, but we can still wash. So, you know, I take that time to help them wash and get everything all good and clean it. That's the one thing we do here. We wash every single day. Now I'm going to say I have been needing to lose weight because I have been so overweight having these kids back to back and not eating so well. So I've been starting to walk a mile every day in the morning and in the night. And I'm actually taking a shower every day because I don't, you know, being in, in, in, was going to say being in puberty. I wish.

Maggie (13:10.829)
No.

Meara (13:29.73)
Being in perimenopause, I stink. Worse than a, you know, pubescent teenage boy. Like my armpits, it's like, where is this coming from? So I have been taking a shower daily now and my skin looks like elephant skin. It is terrible. I hate it and I'm not feeling well. So I'm probably just going to be washing from here on out, but I hate it.

Maggie (13:46.51)
I was gonna ask you, yeah.

Maggie (13:54.469)
Now are you using coconut oil? For your skin to put on after you get out of the shower. Do it. need to. There's no way.

Meara (13:57.528)
for

No, that dries my skin actually. It dries my skin. It dries. I'm not kidding you. It dries my skin. So I've been using apricot seed oil and that actually helps works better. And it's, it's pretty light. Well, so is coconut. my gosh. I hate the smell of shea butter. Every time Ruby does her hair. Now she uses shea butter in her hair because she doesn't like the booger you feel of the wet. I hate it. But so yeah. So, yeah.

Maggie (14:14.188)
And you won't use Shea better because you don't like the smell.

Maggie (14:22.468)
My husband does too.

Meara (14:29.858)
Just make sure when you are washing with soap, we use natural soap, to not get the soap in your private area. As female, I know we are so tempted to wanna wash inside our bits and pieces. Please do not wash in your bits and pieces. I have heard so many women say, I'm itchy, I'm dry, it smells, I don't feel right down there. It's because you're washing with soap in your private area. Our bodies are...

Maggie (14:44.1)
Do not.

Maggie (14:56.196)
and you're throwing off all of the natural levels of everything, your inside will clean itself. You're just cleaning outside.

Meara (14:58.934)
Your pH, it causes, you are, it disrupts your pH. Yep, it does. It naturally cleans yourself. So soap and lather yourself up everywhere. And when you rinse, will all natural. I'm not saying like wash on top, on the top and in between your legs and stuff down around that area, but don't stick your fingers anywhere inside. Please, you have a natural pH balance that does it.

Maggie (15:23.98)
And don't and don't squirt anything up there. my goodness.

Meara (15:28.214)
I think we have long passed the douching era, don't you think? Maybe, you never know. Yikes. wow. Okay. Yeah, so that's that. Let's get into the rest of our house. Let's talk about charging water, taking rugs outside. We charge our water. We stick it outside in the sun and we leave glass jars on the porch and we bring it in. And it helps to, it helps the,

Maggie (15:31.404)
I don't think so. I still see it in the grocery store. was like, really?

Yeah.

Maggie (15:52.77)
And I want to start doing that. I want to start doing that. Do you do crystals at all?

Meara (15:59.023)
No, I haven't gotten into that yet. I was actually going to buy a few, not crystals. was going to buy the. Yes, it helps the. I guess when I think crystals, I think pink and white for some reason, but. Different colors. So when we charge our water in the glass jars, it helps the chlorine evaporate and makes the water feel alive and more bioavailable. We also have a spinner.

Maggie (16:04.238)
Quartz. Yeah. Those are still crystals. Quartz crystals, I don't know. Maybe.

Maggie (16:14.692)
Of course it's be pink.

Meara (16:27.916)
Maya, I believe it's called, M-A-Y-A. It spins our water and it has a magnet in the bottom of it and it spins it to bring in the oxygen. So it's almost like a running creek, what have you. We do that as well. And then with our rugs, we don't wash them that often, but we do take them outside and let them sit in the sun so that it kills the bacteria and sanitizes our rug.

Maggie (16:42.037)
Nice.

Meara (16:55.736)
Sometimes I accidentally leave them out there and it rains and then it washes itself. But you know, so that's what we do and.

Maggie (17:01.131)
The sun is so, so beneficial in that way. It's so healing. It, it cleans and it disinfects and it recharges you. I, um, I recently came across something about, and there was a saint who

Meara (17:05.762)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (17:19.908)
he lived on on light, did not eat, but he. He lived off of the light and I, don't know enough about it to, you know, I just came across this and it and it blew my mind and I'm like, I believe it, I do. And I know that, you know. And in times of war and back in the day, you know, hospitals, they would let in the light and they would take their patients out and let them.

Meara (17:24.142)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (17:30.211)
Yeah.

Meara (17:38.094)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Maggie (17:49.782)
lay in the sun and they would heal faster.

Meara (17:56.099)
They do. They still take babies outside in other countries. If you're listening in and you're a country that still takes your babies outside to be in the sun, we want to hear about it.

Maggie (18:07.044)
Well, I think that's the cold weather too. I think they do that in wintertime.

Meara (18:10.434)
That is in, that is in somebody was just talking to me about going to one of those countries, Switzerland, Finland. I think those areas, yeah, they'll take, they'll go out on a coffee date with their friends and leave the babies outside all bundled up for fresh air. And that's like, I mean, if you're in the country that you can do that, then that's pretty cool. yeah. So I wouldn't either, even if it was, well, even if it was in that country, I wouldn't.

Maggie (18:17.668)
Sweden, Finland, Switzerland maybe.

Maggie (18:33.348)
I would not be leaving my baby alone here.

Meara (18:40.086)
I'm just stuck on my kids like that. So, what are you guys doing in your laundry room? I know we make our own detergent from scratch, usually, but having five kids.

Maggie (18:41.26)
I can't, yeah, I am too.

Maggie (18:52.342)
And I wanna make that the recipe that we shared. I wanna do that. you sometimes we pour in some vinegar and some lemon. Sometimes we pour in some baking soda and, you know, just different essential oils for different smells. And it's really great. We currently, we still have it set up and it's gonna have to change soon. In the winter time, my husband made an indoor...

vent for our dryer. So our dryer would heat our house and put moisture into our house during the winter time. And it was lovely. And we've used different essential oils in there and it was just fantastic. Now, if you're using regular laundry detergent, never do something like that, because not only are going to have those chemicals on your skin that you're absorbing into your body, but you're also going to be inhaling them. yeah. So, but I would like to have something that

Meara (19:23.0)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (19:37.144)
Mm-hmm.

Breathing them in. Not good.

Maggie (19:48.514)
was jarred or together that I could just, you know, do real quick. So I want to try that recipe.

Meara (19:53.603)
Yeah, we have that whole recipe on her. Yeah, when you were talking about you guys throwing, your husband just throwing stuff in, I was thinking of like you guys just creating a witch's brew for each load of laundry. This one needs a little bit of, newt of eye.

Maggie (20:02.286)
No.

Maggie (20:06.083)
Yeah, and sometimes I walk back there and I'm like, what are you thinking using this? I'm like, this is really expensive. I'm like, you can't use this one in the laundry or, you know, he had what did he had? He had tea tree oil. And I'm like, this is for our first aid kit. I'm like, you cannot be using this in our laundry. But. And then and then and it was lovely and I and I thought too, and I'm like, you know, because our dryer is.

Meara (20:25.038)
But did it smell good?

know. One time thing.

Maggie (20:34.917)
putting out the air, the detrit oil would be beneficial for all of us too. Yeah. But I mean, Sandalwood, and that's my favorite. That's my go-to for, I'm obsessed with it, but it's like $20 for a little bottle. It's expensive.

Meara (20:39.202)
Yeah. Yeah. Now.

Meara (20:49.23)
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't go a way. We don't have time to make detergent all the time from scratch. I mean, we're homesteading, but we aren't. I mean, I work 52 hours a week, so it's not like I have all the time in the world. My go-to is, I pronounce it Zoom. Maggie told me it is Zom. Zoom Zom.

Maggie (20:59.545)
Right.

Maggie (21:07.872)
I, that's what I assumed. I don't know.

Meara (21:10.562)
Well, we also want to know what it's called if you guys know, let us know what you think it's called. Anyways, use the Zom Zoom. I use the liquid frankincense as my favorite. That's my go-to. But as of recently, I've been doing some more research on what's good for us because you know, we just keep learning that the frankincense scent often needs a chemical help to stay shelf stable. Wow, that's a tongue twister. But the powder has pure essential oils, baking soda and goat's milk.

Maggie (21:14.105)
Yeah.

Maggie (21:22.487)
is now.

Meara (21:39.917)
So if you wouldn't wash your hands with it, you wouldn't wash your clothes with it. Cause you know, you're going to be wearing those fibers all day. So, don't let it be a delivery system for synthetic soup. like to say, no, but the powder is better. So we're going to switch over to the zoom zoom. I'm going to call it zoom zoom. We're going to switch over to that, the powder. so, you know, you learn something.

Maggie (22:01.612)
Now what about what about medications and such?

Meara (22:06.956)
Yes. Medications. You got me because I wasn't there yet. We were going into immunity, but if you want to go into the pharmacy, we can go into the pharmacy. You mean for...

Maggie (22:16.484)
Well, we kind of touched about immunity, didn't we? As far as not bathing and not-

Meara (22:21.382)
well then do you want to discuss that you don't vaccinate your children cough cough? Let's let's open a big can of worms here, Maggie.

Maggie (22:27.767)
Hahaha

Maggie (22:35.812)
no, we do not. We don't vaccinate our children. when we had our first, I, when I was pregnant, I was very weary about vaccinations. I, everything in my body was telling me no. And I, did a lot of research and I told my husband, I'm like, you do your own research and I'm going to do my own research and we're going to come together and share everything that we have.

Meara (22:35.918)
Humph.

Let's do it. And neither do we.

Maggie (23:04.226)
And unfortunately we just, didn't get to it.

a firm decision on it that either of us felt comfortable with. we decided that we, were certain ones that we would never do. And we decided that we were going to do a, like an elongated process that our kids would only get, you know, one at a time and we would stretch it out. And when my second was born, they are, what, 13 months apart, 15 months apart.

Meara (23:28.75)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (23:38.905)
you know, we're just, we lived far away from the doctors and I kinda, it just kinda got to a point where we missed a lot of our appointments. And then I'd go back in and she'd be like, well, we don't need to do that one now because you're already past the age. And I'm like, that doesn't even make sense to me. so we really started, you know, going gunk hoe on research and we're like, okay, we're not.

Meara (23:49.166)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (23:55.594)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (24:04.878)
doing this anymore and we stopped. My daughter was, I don't know, maybe close to two. My son was maybe close to one. And then our third child has not been vaccinated at all. And he doesn't get, my two boys, they hardly ever get sick and they don't hold illnesses for that long. And my daughter holds them longer.

Meara (24:25.698)
Get sick.

Meara (24:31.372)
as a nurse, 24 years in the medical field. I was a medical assistant, so I used to give vaccines all the time. Was a CNA for the longest time. Now I'm a licensed practical nurse as of 13 years in June. This is tough, know, do your research. I will never, ever, ever advise.

Maggie (24:34.335)
Yeah

Maggie (24:53.508)
to research.

Meara (24:56.65)
anyone that I come across to not vaccinate their child, nor will I ever tell you not to vaccinate your child. But what I will do is tell you what has happened in my life and what has changed for me so that you can decide on your end what you choose to do to make the sound decision for your family. Now, if you choose to vaccinate, hey, that's all you, you know, I'm not the type to sit here and go, well, you can't do that because research says this research is research, you know.

Maggie (25:22.836)
no, yeah. I would, I'm not a medical professional, but I would always advise you not to vaccinate until you do your research or go in there and say, Hey, before you give my child this vaccine vaccination, will you sign this paper saying that it will not cause my child any, any harm and they won't do it. They will not do it.

Meara (25:26.35)
Ahem.

Meara (25:37.997)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (25:42.338)
Mm-hmm.

Meara (25:46.894)
Mmm, yeah.

Maggie (25:47.525)
And do research and some people to look into Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. She's a great, she's a great person to get that kind of research from. Dr. Brian Artis has a lot of good information on vaccines as well.

Meara (26:04.654)
So does the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, VAERS. It's a national early warning system managed by CDC and FDA. And its primary purpose is to detect the potential safety issues in vaccines after they've been licensed and are being used by the public. Also look at the boxes. Ask to look at the ingredients or you can go online and you can look at the ingredients. It's right there in front of your face. It couldn't be any bigger.

Maggie (26:28.268)
ingredients.

Meara (26:33.656)
so real quick, I'm going to touch base. When I was young, I got the DTAP and I had an adverse, adverse effect. I was a very healthy child. Then I started getting sick consistently throughout the years. had a flu vaccine, extreme adverse effect. Nobody in our house ever gets flu vaccines. No one's ever get, no one ever gets the flu. We only had the flu. I had it when I was pregnant with the second to last one and that lasted for just a few days. We never get the flu vaccine.

A lot of these vaccines are given to not prevent you from getting like chickenpox and flu. It is only given to decrease the amount of time and the severity of that. So anyways, I have a learning disability and I believe it was caused by the vaccination. My first two older

Maggie (27:22.446)
There's a lot of research out there right now showing that.

Meara (27:25.686)
My adult children, my son and my daughter both have learning disabilities. I believe they were vaccine injured as well. My third child, she is 11, or she's going to be 11 this year. She has a learning disability as well. I believe it's from the vaccination. My fourth child that I have with my now husband, our first child together, she had half of her vaccines until age of one, and then we stopped. And then when my other daughter was six months, we stopped her vaccinations.

When we found out we were pregnant with our third one together, my seventh child, he, have a bonus child from him, from a previous marriage as well. So she makes number seven. She was vaccinated as well. in another country, she's doesn't have learning disability. She's very intelligent. but when I was pregnant this last time, we didn't do anything. I didn't get any vaccinations while I was pregnant. I didn't know the side effects it would have on the unborn child.

And she's never been sick. We didn't do orthomycin. We didn't do anything. And the only thing that she's had was just last week here in the hospital for a ruptured appendix that I knew she had. And no one ever told me that it was possible because she was too young. It's not true. So anyways, with that being said, we don't vaccinate and we will never vaccinate. So please, please do your research again. I would never.

Maggie (28:49.828)
We're in search.

Meara (28:51.426)
we would never tell you not to vaccinate. That is your choice.

Maggie (28:53.71)
Don't listen to us on whether to vaccinate or not, but listen to us on doing your research on vaccinations before you vaccinate.

Meara (29:03.586)
Yeah, where to go to do your research. So that is a huge topic of discussion, huge debatable topic that I will never get into debating because I am in the medical field, obviously. So, okay. Well, with that being said, I'm going to move on over to other illnesses you can get outside from ticks. Ticks is a huge issue going on right now. I hear they say they're dropping boxes of ticks on farmers. Not sure, haven't done my research on that, but I do know they're also trying to come out with a new lime.

Lime disease vaccination that only treats Lyme disease, not the other two diseases that ticks do carry. That is an episode I would like to do as well.

Maggie (29:44.804)
There's some very interesting things that I've been hearing about Lyme disease also and what is really causing it and it not being caused from ticks necessarily.

Meara (29:54.551)
Interesting. I heard that. Yeah, we can get into that later. So anyways, I just want to say that we make our own sunscreen. And last year we were using sunscreen. We were putting lemongrass in our homemade sunscreen with zinc oxide powder and it was shea butter. my gosh, it was the most nastiest smell shea butter and coconut oil and beeswax and

Maggie (30:15.576)
I love Shea Butter.

Meara (30:17.28)
and zinc oxide powder and lemongrass. so Maggie, we were just discussing this last week about what I was using and you said, wait, you can't use lemongrass in the sun because it causes XYZ. What was that?

Maggie (30:22.158)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (30:29.348)
Well, yeah, it makes you more sensitive to the sunlight. And it kind of citrusy, oil oil.

Meara (30:33.654)
sun. So when yeah, well, when you were telling me that I'm like, well, we never had an issue with becoming sunburned or becoming more sensitive, probably because we're all brown folks over here. And we might have a little bit more melanin that protected us from that. But we did, we are going to end up switching and I am going to have a new recipe. I will come up with, put that on a PDF and put it on our Facebook community page, but I need to make it first. So it's going to have rose geranium, cedarwood and peppermint. just so you know,

Maggie (30:46.924)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (31:02.158)
I like it. Hypermint's very cooling, very good for sunburn and...

Meara (31:03.438)
Ticks breathe, it is. Ticks breathe through their legs and these oils will overwhelm their oil, their oil sensors, their sensors so they don't latch on. So I'm gonna come up with a recipe for that. So also make sure that when you go outside to wear like long socks and stuff like that. So let's quick touch on the, go ahead. What were you gonna say?

Maggie (31:24.323)
Yeah.

No, that's fine. We don't. We're surrounded by woods and we have, especially when spring starts, we generally have lot of ticks in our yard. And we very rarely ever have one that's actually bitten into us. Usually we find them walking on us from our clothes and we get them before. We're always on the lookout for them.

but yeah, we don't do the whole pants and socks. Now, if we go hiking and like thick woods, we will then, but just here around the house, there are ticks around and we don't, you know.

Meara (31:57.187)
Mm-hmm.

Well, they do.

And they do like to hang out around in damp places. So if you have areas in your yard that are damp, you can always put like brush up against it to like create like a barrier and be sure that when you go in at night, if you're concerned about ticks to just check your skin, they look like little poppy seeds. It takes about 48, correct me if I'm wrong, 30 something to 48 hours or 48 to 72 hours for the gunk in their stomach to actually go into your skin, believe, to cause the Lyme disease. I read it, I...

Maggie (32:08.292)
Mm-hmm.

Maggie (32:14.563)
Yeah.

Maggie (32:27.778)
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure on that.

Meara (32:31.521)
I know it takes

Maggie (32:31.948)
I just know the sooner you get them the better.

Meara (32:34.604)
Yeah, that and you can start on antibiotics. Okay, so real quick, we're going to touch on pharmacy. We know that when we get hit with a bug in our house, we support our body with natural things. So I use AMLA for vitamin C. It's the most strongest.

form of vitamin C you can get, because it's an actual plant omelette, it's vitamin C. And then I use ubiquinolol for energy. I am in perimenopause stage. Ubiquinolol is just like CoQ10. It's exactly like, it is CoQ10, but it's a broken down form of it, because as we age, our body doesn't break down the CoQ10 as fast as it will when it's already broken down into ubiquinolol, and then our body is able to help me. Man, I am off today. Absorbs that better.

Maggie (32:57.291)
strongest.

Meara (33:25.23)
Sorry, nurse over here. Yeah. Also when we get fevers and we just have so much to talk about, when we get fevers, we let it ride because it's the body's incinerator. It's fighting off the illness for ourself or the fever.

Maggie (33:27.074)
I'm off today too and I can't help you.

Maggie (33:34.435)
We do.

Maggie (33:40.58)
And there are things to look out for during that too. Obviously you don't want to too hot and there are natural ways to cool yourselves down. Dr. Sherry Tempenny has a lot of good information on that as well. Continual.

Meara (33:55.98)
Is she on YouTube? Where can you find her?

Maggie (33:58.501)
she's online. I don't know that she is on YouTube. You can find different of interviews with her on YouTube and TikTok and that sort of thing. But she has a website and she's got little pamphlets. if you just want something on one topic, you can, they're inexpensive and

Meara (34:10.072)
Okay.

Meara (34:18.902)
Okay. Yeah. So we don't treat for fever here in our house. We treat if they look miserable and they're just absolutely a mess. We'll give them medicine. We don't give them Tylenol. We use GenXa. It has the gunk that's not in it and we do dye free. But we do do onion and garlic in the socks. If you do do garlic and you have a small child, please make sure you don't put the garlic directly on the bottom of their soles of their feet. It will burn them. So you want a barrier in between. So maybe another sock. Yeah. So

Maggie (34:19.022)
Thank

Maggie (34:39.044)
straight on their skin, yes.

Meara (34:47.788)
The soles of the feet have the largest pores and the sulfur compounds from the garlic absorbs directly and the onion absorbs directly into the blood to fight the infection. And it really works. They don't call it an old wives' tale for nothing. I'm not kidding you. It sounds old school, but the science of absorption is definitely there.

Maggie (35:01.964)
Alright.

Maggie (35:07.076)
I just want to I just want to bring this to everyone's attention right now think about that that you can put something like that onto your skin and it absorbs and goes into your body everything that you put on your skin whether it be lotion or soap any Markers anything that you put on your skin goes directly into your bloodstream. There is no

Meara (35:08.822)
Ahem.

Maggie (35:32.942)
There is no detoxifying liver that goes through this stuff first. It goes directly into your bloodstream. All these things, most of the lotions that you're putting on, the body wash, shampoo, makeup, women, my goodness. Before you have breakfast in the morning, you've probably applied two to 3,000 different chemicals onto your body just in your beauty routine.

Meara (35:45.506)
Bath and body wash is terrible.

Meara (35:57.388)
Yeah.

Maggie (35:57.474)
So check the ingredients on everything because you are poisoning yourselves. You are killing yourselves by using all of this stuff on you.

Meara (36:06.136)
especially perimenopausal women, our hormones are already off balance. Adding all these chemicals is just gonna make it worse and it's just, it's not good. So yeah. Okay, well, I wanna end by saying that we aren't perfect and we're still learning right alongside all of you women folk listeners. We're not masters and we're not telling you what you need to do. What works for us might not work for you and maybe you'll tweak some of our recipes and make them even better. Let us know, we can change that, put your name on it.

Maggie (36:21.857)
No.

Yeah.

Meara (36:35.862)
Or maybe our story will spark an idea that you've never had. So at the end of the day, I hate that phrase, everybody says it, but I'm gonna say it today. At the end of the day, it's about trusting the body's design. But Meggie, before we go, our village is growing. We're officially in 17 different countries. To our sisters in Kenya, Nigeria, and Argentina, our neighbors in Canada and Jamaica, and everyone tuning in from the Philippines, India, Hong Kong, we see you.

Maggie (36:50.838)
It is.

Meara (37:04.914)
we've learned so much from traditional roots like hair heritage, India and Pakistan. have seen you in my own daughters. My daughters are Pakistani and we're just trading, wanting to trade wisdom from across the border. this is our revival. This is that movement. So next week for episode eight, we're going to dive into the powerhouse plants, the ones that pull their weight across food, medicine, and ecology.

whatever that word means. you don't want to miss it, but for now, thanks, Maggie. But for now, the conversation continues on our story, our Facebook community page, going to learn how to talk here. I want to know what are you doing in your home today? Are you charging the, your water with the sun or are you making your own soap? Keep an eye out this week. I'll be posting, recipe, our recipe for clean natural sunscreen. So you can ditch your synthetics before the heat hits.

Maggie (37:37.568)
environment.

Meara (38:04.51)
And we're a movement of resilient women finding our way back to our roots together. So until next time.

Maggie (38:10.413)
Stay rooted and stay wild.

Meara (38:12.111)
Stay wild.